![]() but it is valid as long as you are perfectly sure that you control the stuff, able to calculate the fee rationally, and are insured against fatal error. ![]() I understand you pay for what you need, like scalability, decentralization, speed, etc. ![]() Since Storj team needs the node operators as well, everyone expects that the fee should be paid no matter what. Of course that is not limited to Tardigrade, but the point is unlike other non-distributed services Storj team is practically not in position to waive the fee caused by a bug or a mistake, because users owe node operators, not the team. To integrate Tardigrade with other existing services you would need a thorough testing so that you would literally not go bankrupt. Since there is no trial already, with one mistake (no matter whose mistake it is), the amount of fee can be a disaster for users. I suspect this is related with the fact that deleting files on Nextcloud moves them to trashbin rather than deleting them directly.Īny insight would be appreciated. I noticed that on my account page the amount of egress bandwidth (download bandwidth) usage increased after removing/deleting files from Nextcloud external storage. At the same time, I can understand taking a slower approach to growth with higher pricing in order to grow the SNO base and solidify the software.ĭoes removing files from Nextcloud external storage folder use egress bandwidth? FAQĬontinuing the discussion from How to add Storj to Nextcloud "as external storages"?: I love the amount that Storj pays out to SNOs as a SNO myself that runs Storj infrastructure in multiple places, but I would rather take a cut in bandwidth payouts down to a couple $/TB egress and see a lot more egress. I have tried to get devs and some small companies in my professional network on board but it is much cheaper for them to encrypt their data and upload to Wasabi/Backblaze. As a worst case the amount held in escrow is paid out to the SNOs that took over egressing the repaired data, not a fixed amount per TB egress.Īgain, just my $0.02 on pricing. That in and of itself should help reduce costs. ![]() Based on low network repair amounts, I don’t think that repairs should be paid either, payouts that are in escrow and not payed out to a node not gracefully exiting go back to the satellite. At $20/TB, that is $260/month, more than enough to pay for internet, power, and even ~4TB of additional storage just from bandwidth alone. That means that fully saturated upload for the month would allow people to upload ~13TB/month. Ookla, while only one source is a source nonetheless, shows the global average bandwidth of ~75/40 Mbps. If the economics could get down to $5-6/TB/month for customers that would bring it line with the most competitive cloud offerings from the mid-size providers.įor egress, $45/TB is a lot, especially if SNOs are being paid $20/TB for customer egress. Not sure if the satellite taking a 60% cut is entirely required, but I don’t know the economics of running a satellite but as most of the bandwidth is directly customer -> SNO, not sure what overhead the satellite needs. With a 2.7x expansion ratio, that means that for every TB stored, SNOs are payed $4.05/TB/month total. SNOs are payed $1.5/TB/month, customers pay $10/TB/month. Not OP, but my $0.02 on this would be to hit pricing equality with Backblaze B2. Sure it does depend on you trusting tardigrade to keep your data safe… but than again, you really should have a third offline backup somewhere anyways… thus allowing you to trust stuff like tardigrade to make your backup method easy and swift… the cool thing about tardigrade is that you can essentially have a corporate datacenter and take a backup of all the data… and then if the entire center goes offline you could essentially run the data parts of it directly from the tardigrade cloud without anyone on the user end of your product complaining about it being down… With something like zfs you can snapshot and then you just need to upload the data changes since the snapshot to update your backups. You already have your data, why bother downloading it again to verify it, tardigrade continually audits data on the storagenodes, basically all you have to do is verify that all the files you want backup’s of is up to date… and if all of your files change so much so that you have to replace all the data, then i’m pretty sure you are doing the whole backup thing wrong… maybe in an antiquated way or something.
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